The art to discussion

  The art of discussion is to use an integrity that allows you to be kind, interesting and to the point. This is making a point that can be talked about and worked with by the other person. Where, the art of discussion takes place, this be when there's sometimes a switch-off to commanding or arguing. To which is using a different set of idea or where the other doesn't agree. The goal is to get an understanding between the people discussing things. So remember this, when you want to get along and get their agreement, you can make your idea seem like theirs and then if possible make it seem to have come from the other person. Sharing a viewpoint, if you can or asking a question for a question.

  However this is what I remember. When it goes to either of the two, then its up to you. The discussion has to be ended sometime, so be aware of that and try to either give an excuse to talk another time or to state that you must do something else or let the conversation end as you 'choose' to walk or go away from the discusser. Sometimes not saying anything is to end the conversation early and you have option to choose to go away from the other. So sometimes when there is no way to continue a conversation, it is ended and somebody walks away.

  Where I am certain that it is somewhat more interesting. This is when you are trying to bring up what they said and tell it in your own words, as a restatement to make the other assured you heard the thing said. The other thing is to restate what they did as a fact. When you make them think, by doing so, then you can get them to be swayed to your point. Sometimes to discuss something you gain a possible friend and someone to work with. Sometimes they may be abstinate or obsessive and go into arguing a point. The conversation with discussion is to make a point, not to actually argue. So, make it seem as though it were a good point as it can make a difference.

  Otherwise, you can state your problem or situation and in the place of a response. This can be useful when you don't have anything to say about what they say. It serves to point out something of the moment that can be discussed or resolved. Try combining those idea of conversation, if you want to try something different. Try using the feelings you get through empathy, then you will know what to say, as it feels right.

  This is the point though, to seem to give in and yet make a point to get you a winning point in the discussion. This is like a debate, where the art of discussion is the idea of working with another for a result. So, they can turn into associates, and it can lead to pride and friendship. Which leads the future conversations you might have. On the other thing that can happen, be that the meeting can turn into nonchalance or dislike.

  So watch what you say, as some things said could lead into disaster. This be where the idea of holding back on saying the irritating thing in discussion works better for you. In fact, I believe its knowing when not to say something, also called saving face, where you state what they want to hear and leave off the rest. What feels right to say, should be a good approach than just bluntly saying things. Always remember the final last words. Where the dismissal of a discussion is the final last words.

How to argue(disargue)

  How you argue is with a win win type situation. That is to win and have the other win, in some manner. The arguement is key to the conversation. So, to argue one work out their viewpoints and must be aware that each side has views that must be expressed to get understood. Thus, to win, one must wait out the anger or emotion and not react to it while thinking of what he or she will say. The emotional outburst can cause a reaction in a heated moment. This reaction can lead to attacks, of many sorts. If the other person feels they are ignored, then they will leave off arguing or attack. The key to this is discussion. Don't be afraid to express your thoughts and get things understood. When an understanding is reached, then you are free to do as you want.

  This is done in many variety of ways, one of which is presenting your arguement in a firm or focused manner that makes sense to the other, as long as its practical they will agree and may end the arguement. Unless the other is obstinate, they will agree. Another such way is to present the idea an you want to discuss in a manner that causes them to think they won the point, where you actually win by sacrificing something you want for getting the agreement. Thus, feigning or seeming to lose is sometimes winning. This may be seeming to give in, and presenting a point thats similar to their point will win them over. So, if done right you both win.

  Be willing to say, 'Ok' every now an then or make it a point to allow them no arguement. Be willing to be concillatory to the point of effort, by any method you want to use. This means accepting the point of view and working with it, adding your idea in with it, and presenting it. The arguement is best ended quickly before it gets bad or violent. Albeit, don't seem to be a pushover too many times, as they might take advantage of you. In the arguement, be sure to state the situation to get the other to understand where your coming from. If necessary, make a stand-off moment where you may request time to think it over or similar. Waiting 10 seconds by counting backwards from 10 can work wonders. Don't be afraid to to say 'no' and point your reason out. This is being assertive.

  Stress the point that is important to you and they will get the point. Don't yell it though, just firmly state it as it can act to get attention to you. Thats the reason you can't always tell what the outcome is with concillatory moments. As the concillatory moment is changing the outcome where you can tell what's going to happen with the person who's dead-set and made to act with emotion. Its better to act with concillatory moments. It makes an interesting point, either ignore the points that don't fit with the object you have in mind. Or, take notice only when it deems important. Ie, they must make a point of it, with evidence that supports their idea. So the only way to actually win is accede the point, accept the situation and work out an agreement. The one exception amongst many is that sometimes people argue over the idea they have to release stress and they can make up after working things out.

  So, be willing to laugh the problem off and let go of your pride. Pride is ego and takes up a position in your mind that promotes emotion. Emotion can make stress and a health problem may result. Thus, to lose the stress requires meditation or a decisive mind to achieve and not sweat the small stuff.

How to do discipline

  Discipline is gained from a repeat moment that has results that can be desirable. There be three ways to do discipline and Willpower is part of all of them. To even attempt to use the three possible ways, requires a will to which you want and need to do something, mostly with your life. As, if there be a will then there is a way. But, it can be with others.

  To be knowing and this can help you in the end.
   'Attitude is a main ingredient to discipline. If you have an attitude expecting failure, you will practice your hardest and inevitably fail or hit a wall when obstacles present themselves, even if you surpass those obstacles a negative attitude degrades performance, whereas a positive attitude can change your outcomes for the better in every sense.

   Also, this means that you can have the will and the discipline and work hard but attitude can make or break what you are doing. In the end, a negative attitude defeats you as does one expecting to take longer to achieve results, even one that allows memories of a past injury can alter results and actions in training. To have a positive attitude will make the result be clear and a success.' - Aryn

  The first way is the training way to use activity and decision to make an achievement which effects others or yourself. First, decide on whom to discipline, either it be yourself and/or others. Then cause the target to do things that help them improve on the effect you need them to improve in. Doing the repeat moment enough times that cause the basic idea you are attempting to train, into becoming habit. The more you attempt of an activity, or genres of activity, the more will you build up.

  The warriors way is yet another adaptation to this. Its the second way thats done by the self. This is to do things that are impeccable and to store poder. By, not doing things or results, that aren't needed. This is the effect of choosing the more efficient option. Doing something that wastes your time or choosing to do things that you actually need to do. Poder is your personal power. As you use controlled folley to get even better results, you can use controlled folley by choosing on the moment to which you will do. Don't do the wasteful acts, basically.

  Everything is a choice, with the warrior's way that you attempt because you choose to. Either from thinking about the situation, doing an activity on an educated guess or from doing the choice on a whim. Thus, controlled folley is very enduring. It can be very unique to do your own thing, that you choose and get power from. And we only actually have a certain amount of power that we are born with. That can be redirected to better purposes. As though everything be a personal challenge and fight to achievement. Work with things that come your way.

  Recapitulation is necessary to reclaim lost memory and poder. Which is named other things as well, like summarization. Listed here @ http://alt-sites.tripod.com/summerization.htm.

  Also, try to laugh at everything that happens, as you also laugh at yourself. This improves the mood and you learn to not take everything seriously. This creates an idea situation to do things better and you don't get 'down' on life. Try not to let the things that happen be too much of a concern. And, worry is annulled. As with the saying, 'don't sweat the small stuff.'

  The third way is self disciplining, which be to attempt to achieve that which effects for yourself and have the guff to do things till they are done or you get tired of the actions. Decide which you want to do and go for it! Use controlled folley for things you are unsure of. It helps to talk about and will yourself to want to do the actions with intention to do the necessary acts. Again, don't let things be too much of a concern. In fact, meditation on the act or effect you want to achieve, also meditation on just nothing, is helpful. And, if something was done that you didn't like, laugh it off.

  Feel free to use psychology with these techniques and combine some of them for better effect. Always remember with using discipline, to work with what you get or work around what you get and laugh off the small stuff.

  Controlled folley and the warriors way is from the Castenada books.